Pentax's best lens is NOT expensive - Pentax-M 50mm f1.7
Quote from James Warner on March 1, 2022, 10:18 pmMost of my life I haven't had the luxury of collecting expensive glass. I am lucky enough that in recent years I have picked some really nice lenses. I admit that focusing on the next best lens is addicting. But do nice lenses always need to be expensive? Thankfully, no. And the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 is my most recent $25 pickup that reminded me of this.
Introduction
Yep, you heard that right. $25 for this lightly worn gem of a lens. I bought it from UsedPhotoPro, one of my favorite used camera gear retailers, and it came in an overly large box packaged as if worth hundreds more than it was. But don't let that low price point fool you: this lens punches above its weight. Or however that boxing saying goes.
The Pentax-M 50mm F1.7 was included as a kit lens with many 35mm Pentax bodies in the 70's and 80's. This makes it abundant, and that abundance drives the price down. But don't look down on it because it's cheap. In many ways I think this should be the second lens purchase most Pentax users make if they're on a budget.
It wasn't on my radar until the other day when I was browsing PentaxForums excellent lens database. Up at the top they have the top ten most viewed lenses, and in first place with 800k+ views was the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7. Not only was it the most viewed, it maintains a high average user score and one of the lowest average prices. That idea intrigued me. Could this be the most overlooked Pentax lens?
I'm no stranger to 50mm, owning around five variants at any given time. (At the time of writing this I can see three just from where I sit.) I know I'm not alone in this. Instead of focusing on whether this lens outperforms any other cheap nifty fifty, I will focus this review on how this lens performs in and of itself. You can decide if it's qualities are worth picking up for your collection.
Build Quality
If you've used a Pentax-M series lens then you know what to expect: smooth and grippy focus ring, metal construction, and a clicky responsive aperture ring. It's a joy to use. Beyond the function of the lens it also looks great. I used to think the Pentax-M aesthetic was a little boring looking, but they've grown on me.
The lens is very compact, even if not quite pancake level. Close enough. When shown side-by-side my FA 43mm Limited lens it looks the same size. This makes it handle really well on smaller APSC bodies or the original 35mm film bodies. Mounted on my Pentax MX the lens balances well and looks sharp. You may even say it's a poor man's 43mm limited (which is fantastic, by the way).
Dissembling the lens is also fairly straight forward, if you ever find one in a trash bin and want to clean out the fungus. It could be good practice, but I would just buy one without fungus. They're cheap enough anyway.
Image Quality
Sharpness
The lens is incredibly sharp, even wide open. And that's one of the reasons it's such an exciting lens, especially for budget minded photographers. You won't find a sharper lens anywhere near this price.
As an example, here's a picture shot with the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 lens on my Pentax K-1. You can zoom in on my daughters hair to see just how good the detail is even shot wide open at f1.7.
I will say that it is more difficult to nail this kind of critical focus on a camera without live view and focus peaking. The exception is 35mm film cameras, where the focusing screens are better suited for this kind of manual focusing. While I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point. I've learned to take a few shots and one of them will be in focus.
Bokeh
Bokeh looks fantastic on this lens, even on smaller sensors than the full 35mm size. In fact, I enjoyed this lens especially on my Pentax K10D, an APS-C camera. I think people over emphasize getting AS MUCH depth of field as physically possible. I can't think of very many times where you would want to shoot 3d subjects at razor thin depth of field. So, don't worry about the APS-C 35mm equivalent conversion for depth of field on this lens. Just go out and photograph with it.
It has just enough character to let you know this was shot on a special lens, but without being overly dramatic. Lenses like the Helios 58mm f2 variants (which I love) have aggressive swirly bokeh that can be used for creature effect. This lens is more subtle. I think that's a good thing.
A word on optimal apertures
I enjoy using this lens from wide open to f5.6. Beyond f5.6 I seldom use. Because the lens is sharp across apertures, I think less about trying to optimize resolution and more about the depth of field fitting for my subject. This is incredibly freeing. On other lenses I want to stop down to increase sharpness, even if I want a shallower depth of field, creating a compromise. With this lens I just don't worry about it.
Sample Gallery
Here are several shots taken with this lens both on APSC and full frame sensors. They are minimally edited and provide a good sense of what to expect when using this lens.
Conclusion
I am recommending the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 lens to any Pentax user. Whether it's your first, second or tenth lens it makes a fantastic addition to your arsenal. I think the lens is particularly well suited for new Pentax users wanting to add a sharp and fast lens to their collection on a budget.
The Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 also makes a great lens for those shooting mirrorless and adapting lenses. Keep an eye out and see if you can't find a deal.
That's it for this lens for now. Let me know if you have any comments or questions, I would love to hear from you!
Until next time, happy snappin'
Most of my life I haven't had the luxury of collecting expensive glass. I am lucky enough that in recent years I have picked some really nice lenses. I admit that focusing on the next best lens is addicting. But do nice lenses always need to be expensive? Thankfully, no. And the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 is my most recent $25 pickup that reminded me of this.
Introduction
Yep, you heard that right. $25 for this lightly worn gem of a lens. I bought it from UsedPhotoPro, one of my favorite used camera gear retailers, and it came in an overly large box packaged as if worth hundreds more than it was. But don't let that low price point fool you: this lens punches above its weight. Or however that boxing saying goes.
The Pentax-M 50mm F1.7 was included as a kit lens with many 35mm Pentax bodies in the 70's and 80's. This makes it abundant, and that abundance drives the price down. But don't look down on it because it's cheap. In many ways I think this should be the second lens purchase most Pentax users make if they're on a budget.
It wasn't on my radar until the other day when I was browsing PentaxForums excellent lens database. Up at the top they have the top ten most viewed lenses, and in first place with 800k+ views was the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7. Not only was it the most viewed, it maintains a high average user score and one of the lowest average prices. That idea intrigued me. Could this be the most overlooked Pentax lens?
I'm no stranger to 50mm, owning around five variants at any given time. (At the time of writing this I can see three just from where I sit.) I know I'm not alone in this. Instead of focusing on whether this lens outperforms any other cheap nifty fifty, I will focus this review on how this lens performs in and of itself. You can decide if it's qualities are worth picking up for your collection.
Build Quality
If you've used a Pentax-M series lens then you know what to expect: smooth and grippy focus ring, metal construction, and a clicky responsive aperture ring. It's a joy to use. Beyond the function of the lens it also looks great. I used to think the Pentax-M aesthetic was a little boring looking, but they've grown on me.
The lens is very compact, even if not quite pancake level. Close enough. When shown side-by-side my FA 43mm Limited lens it looks the same size. This makes it handle really well on smaller APSC bodies or the original 35mm film bodies. Mounted on my Pentax MX the lens balances well and looks sharp. You may even say it's a poor man's 43mm limited (which is fantastic, by the way).
Dissembling the lens is also fairly straight forward, if you ever find one in a trash bin and want to clean out the fungus. It could be good practice, but I would just buy one without fungus. They're cheap enough anyway.
Image Quality
Sharpness
The lens is incredibly sharp, even wide open. And that's one of the reasons it's such an exciting lens, especially for budget minded photographers. You won't find a sharper lens anywhere near this price.
As an example, here's a picture shot with the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 lens on my Pentax K-1. You can zoom in on my daughters hair to see just how good the detail is even shot wide open at f1.7.
I will say that it is more difficult to nail this kind of critical focus on a camera without live view and focus peaking. The exception is 35mm film cameras, where the focusing screens are better suited for this kind of manual focusing. While I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point. I've learned to take a few shots and one of them will be in focus.
Bokeh
Bokeh looks fantastic on this lens, even on smaller sensors than the full 35mm size. In fact, I enjoyed this lens especially on my Pentax K10D, an APS-C camera. I think people over emphasize getting AS MUCH depth of field as physically possible. I can't think of very many times where you would want to shoot 3d subjects at razor thin depth of field. So, don't worry about the APS-C 35mm equivalent conversion for depth of field on this lens. Just go out and photograph with it.
It has just enough character to let you know this was shot on a special lens, but without being overly dramatic. Lenses like the Helios 58mm f2 variants (which I love) have aggressive swirly bokeh that can be used for creature effect. This lens is more subtle. I think that's a good thing.
A word on optimal apertures
I enjoy using this lens from wide open to f5.6. Beyond f5.6 I seldom use. Because the lens is sharp across apertures, I think less about trying to optimize resolution and more about the depth of field fitting for my subject. This is incredibly freeing. On other lenses I want to stop down to increase sharpness, even if I want a shallower depth of field, creating a compromise. With this lens I just don't worry about it.
Sample Gallery
Here are several shots taken with this lens both on APSC and full frame sensors. They are minimally edited and provide a good sense of what to expect when using this lens.
Conclusion
I am recommending the Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 lens to any Pentax user. Whether it's your first, second or tenth lens it makes a fantastic addition to your arsenal. I think the lens is particularly well suited for new Pentax users wanting to add a sharp and fast lens to their collection on a budget.
The Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 also makes a great lens for those shooting mirrorless and adapting lenses. Keep an eye out and see if you can't find a deal.
That's it for this lens for now. Let me know if you have any comments or questions, I would love to hear from you!
Until next time, happy snappin'
Quote from ahoyhere on March 4, 2022, 2:56 amWhile I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point.
I have learned that you can replace the focus screens on most DSLRs! Looks like the most popular seller, Focusingscreen.com, does have a lot of options for the K10D. The prices are in New Taiwan Dollars so don't get too put off. Some they cut to fit, some are just stock types that multiple cameras share, so those might be found elsewhere.
Question: can we view your samples full size? I'm clicking and nothing's happening. 🙂
While I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point.
I have learned that you can replace the focus screens on most DSLRs! Looks like the most popular seller, Focusingscreen.com, does have a lot of options for the K10D. The prices are in New Taiwan Dollars so don't get too put off. Some they cut to fit, some are just stock types that multiple cameras share, so those might be found elsewhere.
Question: can we view your samples full size? I'm clicking and nothing's happening. 🙂
Quote from James Warner on March 4, 2022, 8:28 pmQuote from ahoyhere on March 4, 2022, 2:56 amWhile I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point.
I have learned that you can replace the focus screens on most DSLRs! Looks like the most popular seller, Focusingscreen.com, does have a lot of options for the K10D. The prices are in New Taiwan Dollars so don't get too put off. Some they cut to fit, some are just stock types that multiple cameras share, so those might be found elsewhere.
Question: can we view your samples full size? I'm clicking and nothing's happening. 🙂
I just got a split prism focusing screen for my K10D! Check my thread about the green tint issue for the story. I am really enjoying it. I had looked at focusingscreen.com before but wasn't interested in the $90 USD or so that it was going to cost for one, though it looked like the best option still. Not a lot out there anymore.
You can see larger images in the blog post, but not on the forum post. I have my blog auto post to the forum for easy discussion (easier than blog comment section I feel like), but that gets rid of a lot of things like the gallery.
Quote from ahoyhere on March 4, 2022, 2:56 amWhile I do enjoy using it on my Pentax K10D, this is the one sticking point.
I have learned that you can replace the focus screens on most DSLRs! Looks like the most popular seller, Focusingscreen.com, does have a lot of options for the K10D. The prices are in New Taiwan Dollars so don't get too put off. Some they cut to fit, some are just stock types that multiple cameras share, so those might be found elsewhere.
Question: can we view your samples full size? I'm clicking and nothing's happening. 🙂
I just got a split prism focusing screen for my K10D! Check my thread about the green tint issue for the story. I am really enjoying it. I had looked at focusingscreen.com before but wasn't interested in the $90 USD or so that it was going to cost for one, though it looked like the best option still. Not a lot out there anymore.
You can see larger images in the blog post, but not on the forum post. I have my blog auto post to the forum for easy discussion (easier than blog comment section I feel like), but that gets rid of a lot of things like the gallery.
Quote from Daniel Gonzalez on March 6, 2022, 9:23 pmThis is no doubt a brilliant lens.
A friend of mine told me that the f2 lens is the same one but renamed (not sure about this).
Yet, did you knew the F version of this lens is based on the M 50mm f1.7 lens? Perhaps this explains why the F lens has such great colour rendition¿?
This is no doubt a brilliant lens.
A friend of mine told me that the f2 lens is the same one but renamed (not sure about this).
Yet, did you knew the F version of this lens is based on the M 50mm f1.7 lens? Perhaps this explains why the F lens has such great colour rendition¿?
Quote from Alen K on April 17, 2022, 5:58 pmRe the 50mm f/2 lens, the info at Pentax Forums shows it is not the same design, although there are similarities:
I have an -A version of the 50mm f/2 lens. (It came with the K1000 I bought many decades ago and still have.) It has the same optical design as the manual (-M) version. It is not very good wide open.
James, have you tried the 50mm f/1.7 lens for astrophotography? I would be very interested in how it performs wide open and at f/2. I have an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4 that I bought explicitly for astrophotography. It is good but I have to stop it down to f/2.5 for decent star shapes in the corners of an APS-C frame (K-3II). If the 50mm f/1.7 performs at least as well if not better at a wider opening, I would get one!
PS. Example with the 50mm f/1.5 at f/2.5: Orion (Astrotracer) (AlenK) - Full resolution | AstroBin
Here is the same image but with the jpeg jazzed up by someone who knows how to process images:
Re the 50mm f/2 lens, the info at Pentax Forums shows it is not the same design, although there are similarities:
I have an -A version of the 50mm f/2 lens. (It came with the K1000 I bought many decades ago and still have.) It has the same optical design as the manual (-M) version. It is not very good wide open.
James, have you tried the 50mm f/1.7 lens for astrophotography? I would be very interested in how it performs wide open and at f/2. I have an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4 that I bought explicitly for astrophotography. It is good but I have to stop it down to f/2.5 for decent star shapes in the corners of an APS-C frame (K-3II). If the 50mm f/1.7 performs at least as well if not better at a wider opening, I would get one!
PS. Example with the 50mm f/1.5 at f/2.5: Orion (Astrotracer) (AlenK) - Full resolution | AstroBin
Here is the same image but with the jpeg jazzed up by someone who knows how to process images:
Quote from James Warner on April 18, 2022, 3:34 pmQuote from Alen K on April 17, 2022, 5:58 pmRe the 50mm f/2 lens, the info at Pentax Forums shows it is not the same design, although there are similarities:
I have an -A version of the 50mm f/2 lens. (It came with the K1000 I bought many decades ago and still have.) It has the same optical design as the manual (-M) version. It is not very good wide open.
James, have you tried the 50mm f/1.7 lens for astrophotography? I would be very interested in how it performs wide open and at f/2. I have an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4 that I bought explicitly for astrophotography. It is good but I have to stop it down to f/2.5 for decent star shapes in the corners of an APS-C frame (K-3II). If the 50mm f/1.7 performs at least as well if not better at a wider opening, I would get one!
PS. Example with the 50mm f/1.5 at f/2.5: Orion (Astrotracer) (AlenK) - Full resolution | AstroBin
Here is the same image but with the jpeg jazzed up by someone who knows how to process images:
I haven't, but I'll throw it in my bag next time I get out to dark skies and give it a whirl. That would be an interesting experiment.
That shot is great, and that extra edit is amazing. I wish I knew what I was doing like that lol
Quote from Alen K on April 17, 2022, 5:58 pmRe the 50mm f/2 lens, the info at Pentax Forums shows it is not the same design, although there are similarities:
I have an -A version of the 50mm f/2 lens. (It came with the K1000 I bought many decades ago and still have.) It has the same optical design as the manual (-M) version. It is not very good wide open.
James, have you tried the 50mm f/1.7 lens for astrophotography? I would be very interested in how it performs wide open and at f/2. I have an SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4 that I bought explicitly for astrophotography. It is good but I have to stop it down to f/2.5 for decent star shapes in the corners of an APS-C frame (K-3II). If the 50mm f/1.7 performs at least as well if not better at a wider opening, I would get one!
PS. Example with the 50mm f/1.5 at f/2.5: Orion (Astrotracer) (AlenK) - Full resolution | AstroBin
Here is the same image but with the jpeg jazzed up by someone who knows how to process images:
I haven't, but I'll throw it in my bag next time I get out to dark skies and give it a whirl. That would be an interesting experiment.
That shot is great, and that extra edit is amazing. I wish I knew what I was doing like that lol
Quote from agentlossing on July 1, 2022, 7:19 pmI love this lens. It's brilliantly sharp, with great colors, just as good on the full frame digital K1 II as it is on film.
I love this lens. It's brilliantly sharp, with great colors, just as good on the full frame digital K1 II as it is on film.